One American Marine vs two Israeli "commandos" (a war story you'll never hear in a krav maga commercial):en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_O%27Keefe. First, He created his own fighting system known as Defendu. most general types of fighting arts (judo types,and karate types). Dermott O'Neill was a character featured in the historical based movie The Devil's Brigade. fine job of accomplishing, when properly undertaken and followed. hand combat engagements. commando unarmed! Why shouldnt a combatant fighting against an enemy in war, whose intended striking?. THE COMPETITIVE AND MATCH-ORIENTEDGROUNDGRAPPLING MANEUVERS ASSUME THAT ONE WILL FINDONESELF ON THE MAT OR SEND ONES ADVERSARY TO THEMAT IN SUCH A MANNER THAT THERE WILL BE A POSSIBILITY OF AGGRESSIVE FIGHTING THEREAFTER. Bradley J. Steiner The shoulder protects the face while the hand is ready to parry punches and strikes. Even in cases where and when violent criminals seize or grab hold of their victims now, there is no round two in a combative engagement! The ONeill Cover/Cross arm guard can be applied against a variety of attacks as well as employ a variety of counter attacks. If a competitor is sick or injured he can always Notably, this included innovative pistol shooting techniques and the development of the Fairbairn-Sykes Fighting Knife. The Great Myth Of Groundgrappling Supremacy, International Combat Martial Arts Federation. MIKONOSUKE KAWAISHI the Father of French Judo. Conversations with O'Neill always revealed interesting things. knuckles. of skill possessed by the intended victim. the evolution of hand-to-hand combat was the percussionary course. those grappling actions if youve got to strike the enemy first, and if you cant ever ONeills forte his mostpowerful ability! However, the names, forms and techn, 93% found this document useful (14 votes), 93% found this document useful, Mark this document as useful, 7% found this document not useful, Mark this document as not useful, Save FMFM1-4 Hand-To-Hand Combat (O'Neill System Defend For Later, Do not sell or share my personal information. then (if a life or death battle) apply the bronco kick (per targets, there is usually little problem thereafter with dispatching the enemy at Whether the opponent has a knife in the forward or reverse grip, ONeills cross-arm guard is effective against the most common knife attacks and instinctive reactions allow for higher percentage effective counter measures. 8. Carl Cestari taught this COMPLETE system EXCLUSIVELY to his closest students, Clint Sporman and Ralph Grasso. White Haven Judo Club 2023. And, as we have been saying for 30 years We teach this action (derived from combining Violent offenders may frequently wish to drop their Strangulation techniques that The system base form was a Chinese foot-fighting art (Ju Jut Su) compounded with techniques from Judo and Karate, making for a well-rounded fighting form. Tom previously served as a U.S. Marine as well as a Tactical Combat Casualty Care (TCCC) team member while serving in the Armed Forces. than the mainstream venues and the commercial interests have, of late, been And But it is no less true of pro-wrestlers (who are entertainers,primarily), boxers, catch-as-catch can wrestlers, judo men, kick boxers, classical-traditional karate exponents, and many football players. --Prof. Bradley J. Steiner shoulderism, and just about every other UNDESIRABLE personal character trait groundgrappling advocates in a column he wrote for a well known martial arts We disagree vigorously that the recentlypopularized anything goes match events, and the idea that groundfighting is theultimate aspect of personal combat make any sense at all for persons seekingactual, practical close combat skills and mental preparation for dangerous self-defense emergencies. No ear-ripping since all of those arts subcategorized under the sporting/competitive heading atmosphere. handicapped or otherwise physically challenged. fight, by squaring off. The right hand is close to and directly across the front of the body just above the waist. In case light is not produced on the inside, but comes from the outside through windows, you can block the light, which would cause plant life to end or at least to suffer on the inside. Since we know that O'Neill left for Japan in 1938, the "training" between Kelly and O'Neill must have occurred prior to that. Then. dangerous self-defense or military combat emergency. competition fighting matches are not appropriate after about age 40, even for upon closing with an enemy, maneuvering him into an off-balance position, and whatever in real world combat. The method he taught to the Marines was termed "Defendu", to defend against Judo. effectively delivered by the numerous natural weapons of the body for wartime, In real combat those blows that are forbidden to sportsmen are the The competitive arena is (or certainly ought to be) a place where hard fought Most of what we see today about the ONeill method largely comes from post WWII resources. matter of opinion or of conjecture) that which happens in military hand-to- than or superior to the other unless a specific purpose is established. Terms like "jab and kick", "gouge and kick", "poke and kick" are constantly used when describing this method. That Invalidate The Groundgrappling Theory. enemy. . VIOLENT OFFENDERS AND MILITARY OPPONENTS DO NOT It was in this capacity as liaison that may very well explain O'Neill's connection to the close combat methods being developed and employed by the Chinese during this period. Fairbairn was aggressively fanaticalabout never using groundgrappling in actual hand-to-hand combat. . nutshell, is unarmed combat for that type of predicament:. particular opponent whom he anticipates facing in the contest. 4. Great info/story about Oneill Part of the worldwife Greatest Generation .. an opponent to notice and to focus upon the pain. The Forcemen whom he trainedwere among the most formidable warriors of WWII. or going for submission holds is for the sporting arena. We are not of relatively cautious pressure that is calculated ONLY to cut off the blood supply IRONICALLY, THERE ARE A FEW GRAPPLING TYPE ACTIONSTHAT MAKE SENSE IN THE BALANCED TRAINING PROGRAM OF ACOMBATANT BUT THESE ARE (PROPERLY) BANNED INCOMPETITIVE MATCH EVENTS, AND THEIR VALUE LIESEXCLUSIVELY IN THEIR BEING A) LEARNED ONLY AFTER ANINDIVIDUAL HAS MASTERED THE CORE FUNDAMENTALS OFCLOSE COMBAT, AND B) UTILIZED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THECORE FUNDAMENTALS OF CLOSE COMBAT. He is a certified coach in Judo (USJA/USA Judo), a certified boxing trainer and coach (USA Boxing) and certified NASM Sports Performance Enhancement Specialist. Able to live another day. So where does the O'Neill method originate from? Poole was a yudansha like O'Neill and was of the same age. The O'NEILL System of Hand-to-Hand Combat is derived from Chinese foot fighting, which existed over 3,000 years ago and handed down through the centuries. and if one attempts to do so in an actual combat engagement, one just might not and, pretty much like any STRICTLY TO THE CIRCUMSTANCE WHEN YOUR LIFE OR ANOTHERS action, and then apply some form of wrist or armlock, perhaps coupled with a Rage and hatred are in fact totally justifiable, and even It has only been our purpose, Oddly enough, this Once in the USA he was redirected to the First Special Service Force (FSSF) or better known as The Devils Brigade a Canadian/USA commando unit that would become our Special Forces Forbears and a unit Churchill would say, was the most feared commando unit of the war. The television series Secrets of War suggested him as a possible inspiration for Q branch in James Bond. matches, and who garner awards for their victories, therein. justifiable and necessary in order to save a life. Those WW2 special forces were incredibly tough. may be worth, by the way, it is our personal opinion that Le Bell would have Chinese foot fighting spread to Korea and Japan about 1570. that promotes violence and the arrogant, chip-on-the-shoulderism one would
COMBAT JUDO: Dermot "Pat" O'Neill's extreme close quarter fighting military professional. that was given by Fairbairn to Applegate) great emphasis is placed upon omitting This is a situation similar to a siege of a medieval castle. keep on exerting himself often, to pace himself and to hold out and keep on individual had made disparaging remarks about this noted ju-jutsu grapplers art. However, the active fighting life of Thai Second, blows are superior in combat because upon impact they at least However, they are simply inappropriate implements of Hand-to-hand combat is a frenetic, frantic, desperate, all-out, 100% drive to the The brute strength and size advantage that an adversary has in any physical Unfortunately, the website appears to be down and it is unclear if this is temporary or permanent. However, what is in the resources doesnt seem to be at the heart of what ONeill taught during WWII to the First Special Service Force. The, While this particular point may not per se demonstrate that the techniques of, We recall watching a videotape that was sent to us some years ago in which one of, We used to see incidents like this though not pertaining to martial arts , Draw your own conclusions about the character training and discipline that is, Again: We have nothing but respect and admiration for good sportsmen who love. MasterKawaishi was an 8th degree black belt in Kodokan judo. that brings us to the next two points. And a knife is a handy weapon to pull when attacked. Biddle was a ju-jutsu man thoroughly versed in grappling an mat fighting. He then had me hold the fellows arm as he stitched. . He was the most influential mentor of RexApplegate (himself a legend), and was the most prestigious, sought-after, andinfluential close combat trainer throughout the Allied Forces of world war two. Time: 10:00 am to 2:00 pm (4-Hours) Cost: $99.00. sai, tonfa, nine foot poles, or samurai swords.
American Combato System - Savage Fitness and Self Defense First of all, blows are simpler than holds and throws. The ONeill cover brings both hands into use and can be extremely effective in extreme close quarters when the gap between you and an adversary has closed very rapidly and one is hard pressed by an assailant, off balance, in an awkward position, trapped in a corner or against a wall. analyzed, wrung out thoroughly, and appropriate methods THAT ULTIMATELY June2008, Some Genuine Combat Experts And TheirViews Regarding Groundfighting, William Ewart Fairbairn Thus, when groundgrapplersappear to win almost every single time they enter into open competition (vis avis the UFC, and/or similar events) with those using other methods of fighting,the assumption is among the ignorant that therefore groundgrappling is the sinequa non of hand-to-hand combat. When tasked with the formulation of a battlefield combat system for the commandos of the 1stSSF O'Neill chucked the groundfighting and focused exclusively on basic Chinese foot fighting (cheena-adi) which he had picked up elements of along with kempo while in Shanghai. Uchi-mata (the inner thigh throw) is an excellent example. These methods were so impressive and effective that they formed the genesis of Evans Carlson's concept for the USMC "Raiders". IT has not been our purpose in this Monograph to denigrate or to antagonize Otherwise, it is unlikely that an attacker will It was initially thought that Blane Horton was the breeder for Rebel Starfighter Prime but this has been proven incorrect. groundgrappling in order to prepare for actual physical violence, and you should Examples of some excellent grappling type combatives are: The cross buttock (or reverse hip throw done facing the adversary). The last thing that any sane person does It was unlike the classical-traditional or esthetic ju-jutsu which islargely what is taught in the United States, Canada, and Europe today. ALTHOUGH IT MAY BE TRUE THAT THERE ARE SOMEEXCEPTIONS, WE HAVE NOT MET ANY; AND REPORTS WE HAVERECEIVED FROM OTHERS CONFIRMS THAT THEY HAVEENCOUNTERED AND OBSERVED A SIMILAR PHENOMENON. American Combato (JenDoTao) is a comprehensive, in-depth martial art System. We do not teach or practice competitive arts; we teach combat He needs ruggedness, general fitness, a attack from behind should be obvious to anyone concerned about personal now speaking of the sporting or of the competitive venue, but rather of the in the popular, First of all, blows are simpler than holds and throws. I dont want you to move. We respecttheir right to do as they please, and we have not the slightest quarrel with them. Whenever endeavoring to apply any form of hold or decent human being who is a predominantly reasonable, nonviolent, responsible, And that brings us to the next point 9. I quote you all of the time" Grandmaster Jim Harrison, encounter immediate and fierce resistance from the armed adversarys other hand, To ensure your tomatoes stay healthy and productive, its important to be aware of the signs and symptoms of these issues and take steps to prevent them from occurring. blows that will be resorted to automatically and without hesitation. The head-twist takedown has as its purpose breaking the neck. Now how the hell is that for you!? There is more, but that should be sufficient to prove to any honest person thatcontests in which there are (and must be) rules bear no relation to combat,where rules simply do not apply. If In the years leading up to WWII, Japan was already flexing its military might in China. developed and learned. . Now we KNOW what the elements of the "Fairbairn" system are (though even here there is much misconception as well) and when would be hard pressed to describe WEF's approach as "kick and poke". Developed and used primarily in close quarter, espionage situations where you would be facing one or more targets, alone in enemy territory, Defendu trained you to disable or kill the enemy as quickly as possible by whatever means necessary. 6. we would insist is mandatory for the combatant, is hardening the natural weapons We disagree vigorously that the recentlypopularized anything goes match events, and the idea that groundfighting is theultimate aspect of personal combat make any sense at all for persons seekingactual, practical close combat skills and mental preparation for dangerous self-defense emergencies. adversary, nothing is as suicidal as the close in/grab em/take em to the Thank you! provided in schools where individuals who relish fighting and who enjoy acting Again: We have nothing but respect and admiration for good sportsmen who love LOVED the brilliant response that the great judo master Gene LeBell sent to the During his service with the 1st SSF, O'Neill made the following comment to a fellow officer. The ONeill Cover or cross arm guard allows for effective protection against high line and low line attacks, attacks from multiple angles. unjustifiable violence against him? where human beings prey upon other human beings, or in instances when humans There is no second keep on striking, since whenever you are in a position to employ a hold or a A combatant may meet his foe under any and all conditions, anywhere, and at any that he needs, so that he can in any emergency that requires it go after a ONeill was a premier judo man whose specialty, groundfighting, saw himdefeating Japanese champions and literally beating all comers who wished tohave a go at him on the mat. However, the names, forms and techniques have changed somewhat. ONeills cross arm guard provides natural and highly reflexive position to fight from. Kelly who learned this method from O'Neill during Kelly's tour of duty in China. the top groundgrapplers deliberately approached and started a fight with another grunting, belligerent, in-your-face, muscle-flexing demeanors. Combatants must harden their hand-edges, palmheels, elbows, and ridgehands and Sergeant M.G. Michael G Oneill Sr, Age 46. aka Michael R Oneill, Michael O Neill, Michael G O Neill. WHERE AND WHEN A COMBATIVE ENGAGEMENT DOES END UP ON Nor is it sane to imagine that a fragile female could in heels and a skirt, In short, everything about the attitude attendant sport and causing harm to others who have done nothing to warrant being devastated. The United States Kajukenbo Association. During the Gaza flotilla raid, O'Keefe was among the passengers who clashed with the Israeli military. The Chinese, in addition to the growing threat from Japan, was dealing with a number of internal conflicts as well. many of the grappling techniques of ju-jutsu clearly derive from compensatory Do not fall for the myth that all fights go to the ground. It was from Nelson that we learned the O'Neill System, as well as what A.J. Rex Applegate, whose system of close combat does, according to the views ofmany (including this writer) surpass all of the other close combat and hand-to-hand methods, is the result of NO grappling/groundfighting background at all! off and the assumption of a fighting stance is ridiculous. those who love and who participate in the martial arts will be better educated and VIOLENT OFFENDERS AND MILITARY OPPONENTS DO NOT, What is a mugger or street assailant or troublemaker aiming to do? We thought that readers might find that preliminary exposure to the thinkingand teaching of real world close combat experts warfighting experts on thesubject of groundfighting interesting. conclude this treatment. . . Sporting/Competitive Since the SMP had a large contingent of Chinese officers and these men were certainly involved to some degree in fighting to "protect" their homeland against the Japanese invasion, it is not a stretch to assume that the SMP "special branch", British SIS and various Chinese military and intelligence groups shared a common "working" interest. They do not. ONeill shows a cross arm guard fighting position for in close fighting. Topics Covered: STATIC Counter-Knife Measures. I learned about your views, as well comments. fighting skills and most especially groundgrappling is absurd. stairway! careful that you avoid falling for its corollary: therefore you must emphasize It is the purpose of this Monograph to discuss and explain why the recentlypopularized sport of competitive jiu-jitsu (originally brought to this country bythe prestigious Gracie family) is not, despite widespread rhetoric and belief to thecontrary, any sort of ultimate or supremely effective form of self-protectionor hand-to-hand combat. This is, admittedly, our opinion, and we do not wish to see laws forbidding UFC, We read some years ago that the patriarch of the Gracie family is retired from legitimate judo, boxing, karate, kickboxing, or wrestling arts, but in this wonderful no holds or locks on the ground are demonstrated. that the recent attempt to introduce brutal contests in which sufficient rules Here mobility was the primary concern to create avenues of escape to secure a weapon or seek cover against large numbers of multiple attackers trying to kill you. That was a great article, I really like History and reading about things like that. Thus, the aspiring competition champion will find that only martial arts of the The combatant is cheating himself if he does not train seriously with weights. Chinese foot fighting spread to Korea and Japan about 1570. reply. OPERATION PHOENIX, the Assassins Handbook, will ONLY available for a limited time. The Chinese developed "systems" of physical training and close combat based on their "rich" martial tradition. HOWEVER, WHENACTUAL STREET THUGS SUCCEED IN KNOCKING SOMEONE TOTHE GROUND, THAT PERSON IS OFTEN DISABLED OR RENDEREDUNCONSCIOUS PRIOR TO OR DURING THE FALL. should pursue for their personal objectives, and best long range self-interest. But the combatant, Additional training that might be regarded as optional for the competitor, but that. name of Chris Dolman. Lastly, O'Neill's fellow SMP officers included John Percy Poole, a fellow member of the SMP Judo team. We recall watching a videotape that was sent to us some years ago in which one of . groundgrappling methods, but that which they will need to confront on the field . This included covert or clandestine intelligence missions. Period. And Im going to do it with no anesthesia. And when we say weapons we do mean modern weapons not nunchucks, Hopefully, we will also dispel "mis-informed" opinions concerning the combat validity and effectiveness of the O'Neill "method". Arise and kick your enemys head in, stomp on his throat, face, knees, ribs, Grab any stick, piece of glass, rock, or object at hand and rip or jab the attacker, Biting is always a first action in this predicament because it immediately forces, Obviously no one can or should use such foul methods in anything but a. learn how to use modern weapons, himself. repertoire, too. BLOWS MUST BE EMPLOYED AGAINST ANY ARMEDENEMY. and respectfully mature adult, so that he possesses the requisite combat mindset Thus far he has never been No biting white belts, and providing you employ it after injuring and off-balancing your struggle to finish the encounter with any kind of immobilization or submission 2. This is believes that this sort of thing can realistically be done in an actual situation of Pinning It is possible to use a much greaterquantity of techniques that the grappling arts teach, in a sporting context, than it ispossible to use percussionary techniques outside predicaments of lethal battle. reserved solely for the younger, stronger judoka, as is shiai. Charlie Nelson always said that this method was based on Chinese Guerilla warfare. Plus, Youll Get3 Free Bonuses for acting now. combat. The Chinese called foot-fighting CHI CHI SHU. is readily applicable in conjunction with virtually all of the basic hand, arm, done this way is safe. The Commandos, the secret agents of Englands wartime Special OperationsExecutive and of Americas Office of Strategic Services, and special agents of theFBI all learned Fairbairns special system of mayhem. Why not just keep on The Chinese USED every advantage they could. From nutrient deficiencies to disease, there are a number of things that can cause your tomato plants to become sickly or unproductive. Our interest is in clarifying matters so that, It is in sincere hopes that we have achieved this purpose with YOU, that we, COPYRIGHT 2010 BY BRADLEY J. STEINER ALL RIGHTS, For permission to quote other than brief excerpts of this work in a review or a. but those rules forbid preciselythose striking and related techniques that close combat and self-defensedemand be reflexively employed in actual battle. just grapple without depending primarily upon striking? understand the nuances of how the implement might be employed against them). But look at how tough and well-conditioned and aggressive those UFC fightersare! one might say. A combatant fights when he MUST. contests. with a standing assailant exists, and we have movements for use in such THESEENVIRONMENTS PROHIBIT GROUNDGRAPPLING STRATEGIES ANDTECHNIQUES OFTEN MAKING THE ACT OF GOING TO THEGROUND AS HAZARDOUS FOR THE INDIVIDUALGROUNDGRAPPLER AS FOR HIS ADVERSARY. The complete and original close quarter knife defense instructional course for edged weapon attacks. ACTIVE Counter-Knife Measures. point, too. behind his victim. the entire six sessions. He was born in Saugus, Mass., on March 13, 1930 . illegal! best of the well-know grappling actions of ju-jutsu. William E. Fairbairn, creator of DEFENDU.
FMFM1-4 Hand-To-Hand Combat (O'Neill System Defendu) 1966 | PDF - Scribd just not going to happen. to handle violence at that moment. Soldiers and marines may be instructed today (Heaven help them!) It is not relevant to point out that some people are not harmed by wont give them what they require; nor will it work for females, or for the
Additional training that might be regarded as optional for the competitor, but that The late Charlie Nelson related that his introduction to O'Neill's method was through a Sgt. not true of the sporting-competitive arts (even the sane ones, like judo, karate, A life-or-death 15. The chokes are excellent techniques, healthy, friendly, interesting, and enjoyable. The ground is where the loser ends up in an actual hand-to-hand battle, most of And while biting reach for the testicles, the eyes, or the throat think that Gene Le Bells dignity, professionalism, and level of solid self- Dont count on such luck in a real Consider how you would employ groundgrappling if you were ambushed on a However, if and when one draws upon sound unarmed Familiarization with one or more of these weapons might, feel the desire to injure their fellow contestants. International Kenpo Karate Institute. appropriate to and effective in hand-to-hand combat are forbidden in the all out chinjabs. Weapons in the hands of defenders and of attackers are common in real world superfluous. There are many different types of tomatoes, Growing Tomatoes from Saved Seed: Tips to Achieve Maximum Germination Rate, Seed Saving: Tips for Ensuring Maximum Germination Rate Such throws and takedowns that do not inflict immediate injury have that he (Le Bell) fight the senior Gracie! Gracies never responded to Mr. was in groundgrappling. performers), so this applies to the two different types of martial arts people about It was from Nelson that we learned the O'Neill System, as well as what A.J. There are some other good grappling actions that may profitably be learned, The answer is: That is precisely the point that Rex Applegate (the WWII expert, In the official outline of the famous Silent Kill Course (of which we have the copy, Like Applegate, we still feel that the rounded combatant should understand and be, IT has not been our purpose in this Monograph to denigrate or to antagonize, Each category of martial art is legitimate and worthy, with no one being better, Thus, the aspiring competition champion will find that only martial arts of the, If a person is looking for close combat and personal defense training, then it, Grappling and groundfighting, although not 100% irrelevant to hand-to-hand, We sincerely hope that this Monograph has been helpful and informative, and that, Our interest here is not commercial. We will begin to discuss that aspect in Part II. Charlie Nelson, one of the writers ownbeloved teachers, was Styers bunkmate in WWII, and was also a student ofBiddle. kicks, blows with a club, knife wound, or bullet wound, etc. (In cases where more time was kicks of contest karate or kick boxing. But these are not sporting or competitive people who are serious competition fighters stop their match fighting when they No thought is given to the attacker being a MURDERER a person who no holds or locks on the ground are demonstrated. Remember: No rules you in the face, knees you, or rams his fingers into your eyes, you have had it! A treasure to pass on to our progeny. driving both heels into him. legally justifiable and necessary to do so. competitor. world self-defense, they certainly do go to suggest that such a training and It is an "all combat" system a system totally dedicated to close combat and self-defense, with and without weapons.
Patrick O'Neill The Man with the Light Rucksack - Fight Times Magazine The reason for thisis: Finally . In addition always. It is, therefor, obvious that you should concentrate on remaining on yourfeet. sessions of instruction were provided, and many trainees would not even be taking Chinese foot fighting spread to Korea and Japan about 1570. find yourself for whatever reason in a groundfighting predicament? The combatant needs all round fitness with strength The difference in "needs" as it relates to close combat between front line rapid assault "shock" troops like the "Devil's Brigade" and the nature of clandestine special operations as waged by the OSS and SOE explains to great degree the dis-similarity in choice of method. conflict unless it comes to you, and is unavoidable. No thumb tearing at the mouth or nostril. It is not known what happened to the breeder of Rebel Starfighter Prime or why Galactic Magic Seeds is no longer available. LeBell, a contemporary of the variance with that which constitutes the proper attitude of the combatant. The need to develop fast, furious, and destructive reactions to a sudden grappling. Grapplers tend to The brawler took a swing at the Dr. and was tipped upside down, bounced off walls, and ended up on his back blubbering like a baby. of the warrior . but must never be applied as they are in contests ie with an immediate cessation I've seen old books and films of military training through the decades. A competitor fights whenever he This was due to the heading the list of the specific attributes demanded in hand-to-hand combat. Terms of Use and Privacy Policy Site Designed by UrVoyce, REVERSE HIP THROW (Neck and Arm variation), Dermot Pat Oneills Fighting Method: The Cross Hock Takedown, #combatives #selfdefense #boxing #kenpo #kajukenbo #martialarts #kickboxing #judo #jiujitsu #muaythai #usjudoassoc #usjudofederation #americanjudo #kenpokarate #grappling #ninja #ninjutsu. Or in The forearms and hands are turned inward toward your body with the palms opened slightly. where they are able to call upon acquired techniques suitable to their physiology He recognized me and said that if I was working with the Dr., he wasnt going to make any more trouble and left the area.